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INTERVIEW: Col.
Mu’ammar Al-Qaddafi
‘Why there is veto on oil prices only’...
 Col
Al-Qaddafi says that he believes US President-elect George W. Bush ‘will
be nice... and does not have world ambitions’. In an interview with
reporters in Tripoli, broadcast by Tripoli TV on 4 January, he warned
against the implications of globalization and new ‘transmitted viruses’.
Al-Qaddafi regretted the recent attacks against African nationals in Libya
which he said were carried out by ‘dirty hands.’ Excerpts:
The world map has been shaped by
World Wars I and II, as well as by the invasions of Alexander the
Great and Napoleon before that. Now the world map is different. From
the 18th and 19th century, there has been a new map which is not
that of empires or kingdoms but it is the map of the nation state...
What is the fate of the states which are not part of today's blocs?
I can identify them. Where is Iran going to be? There is a question
mark about the future of Iran. There is a question mark about the
future of Iraq, the Gulf states, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon etc...
Conventional armies should be abolished
From now on we must be careful about the Barcelona process. This is
very serious because it is based on a scenario presented by a number
of strategists. They say there are states with no future, so we must
link them to Europe, to Israel and to the Mediterranean. Why do they
want to link them to these blocs? For their own interests. So that
they will exploit these states and make them markets for their
products and [military] bases.
The other means of defence is armed people and not [conventional]
armies. Armies must be abolished because they have no future. Their
case is like that of the nation-state. They are burdens on societies
which are facing economic crises. Today, these armies are a burden
and they are among the things which would destroy the
nation-state.
If somebody fires at you a missile, fire a missile back at him. If
somebody invades your soil he will be faced by armed people, not
with a tank or mortar just a riffle, a bomb, a gun and small weapons
are enough. But the whole people must be trained and able to fight.
Conventional national armies must be abolished as they have no
meaning and no role to play...
US imperialism, new era
Science has created globalization which, in its turn, created this
climate which forced peoples to rally in groupings because they
could not survive.
America wants, up to this very moment, with its imperialist policy
to impose its imperialism on the world, because the world, in
America's view, is made of national entities. America is capable of
agreeing with the leaders to have their countries handed over to it.
How many traitors, Arabs and non-Arabs in Asia, Africa, Europe and
Latin America and elsewhere, have handed over their countries to
imperialism.
There will be an international rebellion that no one can control.
Rebellion will start from within America. The dollar, American
companies and American minorities will start rebellion. Who will
America be able to face up to? It will not be able to do that.
Now there is a new development - peoples, who feel deceived, who are
angry and in the face of injustice, are against the West in general
without any differentiation between Europe and America...
This will lead to a series of explosions which will be difficult to
control. There will not be countries like Libya to impose an air
embargo on, or countries like Yugoslavia, Korea, Iraq or Sudan to
impose a blockade on. All this is very easy. When a western power
deals with one country, it is easy for it to have a Security Council
resolution, based on Article 7, issued to impose sanctions against
that country which will be forced to pay the price in a state of
humiliation.
In future, confrontation will not be with nation- states, but with
unconventional and unidentified forces. It will be with unidentified
individuals who will be forging the dollar. This job will be done so
well that machines will not detect the forgery, with the consequence
of the collapse of America. If we start dealing with trillions of
billions of forged dollars, what would be the state of the world? It
will collapse.
You cannot scorn Arabs and say they breed camels and come from the
desert and just set the Israelis upon them and they would discipline
them - and Israel is enough as it sorts them out and terrorizes them
- and we get their oil. You cannot scorn Arabs as one Arab can
destroy Israel with a virus or an electron. These predictions are
not imaginary, they are real facts and scientific data which exist
now.
How come oil is not sold at its fair price and the price of a pair
of jeans must increase and must not have a ceiling?... How come
there is a veto on oil and there is none on all the manufactured
goods which we buy from oil revenues? This is an injustice and oil
producers will learn tomorrow and will destroy expensive
goods.
The UN
Let us now deal with the UN: It is inevitable that the powers of the
UN Security Council will be transferred to the UN General Assembly
one day. Failure to do this, unfairness in the world will grow. Its
growth will create problems leading to revolutions in which
sophisticated and out of control weapons will be used.
American aircraft, Cruise missiles and even nuclear bombs will not
be enough. There will be something else that is very, very small and
can only be seen by the microscope: the biological virus, also known
as the electronic virus, money counterfeiting or cloning. American
aircraft carriers and missile will not be able to fight off these
new things which are more dangerous. Viruses today are much more
stronger than cruise [missiles].
What I want to say here is that imperialist forces believe that they
have the upper hand over us, that they can get away with their
contempt for us, that they can tell us what to do, like ordering us
to reduce our oil, cacao, cola and cotton prices, and that they can
tell us that we must, whether we like or not, accept their will
otherwise they would torture us, look down at us, put up prices of
their products, order the IMF to refrain from furnishing us with its
facilities. We would like to tell them here: Your policies will
backfire; your very weapons will backfire. You must show us respect;
you must see us as equal peers and that we need each other. A
balance between us must be created. Justice must be restored.
The veto is a sham measure which must come to an end otherwise there
will a rebellion. The rebellion has already started. The siege
against Libya ended thanks to a rebellion by African nations; by
peoples everywhere; by the rebellion of Arab peoples. When America
was planning to strike against Al-Rabitah pharmaceutical plant, like
the plant which it hit in Khartoum, Arab peoples revolted - Arab
pharmacists and doctors came from everywhere and staged a sitting-in
inside the plant. That was enough. They said if America was to hit
this plant let it do so without hitting Arab pharmacists and
doctors.
Middle East, Palestinian problem
All the current talk about a solution for the Palestinian
problem, about a meeting in Sharm al-Shaykh and a meeting in Camp
David, is nothing but inane prattle. There is only one solution to
this problem: the same solution that was implemented in South Africa
- seven million Palestinians to be allowed to return to Palestine,
elections to be held under the UN aegis, the creation of Palestinian
state and no more talks about Israel and [a Palestinian state] in
the West Bank. There will only be a democratic Palestinian state
following free elections. Nuclear, biological and nuclear weapons
must be eliminated like what happened in South Africa when the
whites were deprived of their weapons.
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